Sorry to get this out so late, I have been pretty tied down lately with Chemistry (argh!). Also, my faithful chariot took a dump (yay, Ford engineering!) So with no further adieu, I present to you this quick blurb as to why I like Gus. (Last name withheld for his anonymity).
Recently, I have been scouring the internet to find places that no skeptic has gone before. Most 'public' forums make you register and await moderation from an admin. I couldn't get in with my stated beliefs- and I didn't want to lie. Little did I know that right under my nose there was a wealth of people who held the beliefs I so desperately wanted to study (non-academically, of course.)
Some of the beliefs held by this group, to the best of my understanding, are as follows:
- Belief that the Illuminati/ Freemasons/ Unknowns are secretly controlling society and more specifically, the music industry.
- These same Illuminati not only control; but they worship Satan/Lucifer and persecute Christians.
- Rhianna is harboring the anti-Christ in fetal form.
- HAARP is controlling weather; causing catastrophes such as hurricanes and even earthquakes. (Yes, you read this correctly.)
-Anchor proteins; therefore god.
So that was the back ground...
Now, you may be asking yourself, "why would you like someone who believes all this nonsense that has absolutely no merit or basis in reality?" And this is what I would tell you:
People who lack any curiosity and desire to understand the world, simply do not get my respect. Gus isn't the typical young earth creationist- he displays some intellectual curiosity, and that is wonderful! He doesn't shut off from debate or condemn other thoughts (though, the same can be said about Ken Ham and Kent Hovind, so I guess it isn't that praiseworthy).
He doesn't see all science as opposition to his beliefs, he even said something along the lines of "science is a way to familiarize yourself with God's creation." He only rejects out of hand what contradicts him, that is:
1. Geological dating ( or any other dating that shows the earth is much older than what the Bible says it is)
2. Evolution. (What creationist doesn't?)
Even so, he doesn't necessarily lose points with me. Why? Because *gasp* I used to believe the same thing. I used the think that goddidit. I used to think that the Christian god came along and made humans in their human form. Then something wonderful happened, I learned biology. I am, in no way shape or form, an expert. But the biology taught me many, many things and one of them is how evolution works. I explained it all to Gus, gave him the evidence, the solid foundations, the terminology, examples, and so on. But he still concluded that there still wasn't enough evidence. He denies 'that the theory even exists'.
He doesn't accept any of the countless data points that support the theory.
So I have decided not to debate him. I actually now want to study his schemas and heuristics (since I am now studying cognition and resistance schematic change.)
So this is for you Gus, I wrote this all out for you. I only want one thing in return;
I acknowledge that you don't view any of the piles of evidence in favor of evolution as valid. So let's forget about it. I am asking this assuming that nothing is known about the world.
I simply want you to answer these honestly. I am not 'calling you out' or anything. I just want to know your thought process. So let's throw both of our beliefs out of the window. Do not assume existence of God. And do not presume evolution is true, either.
1. How would you explain variation of life on earth?
2. What would you conclude about our biologic similarities to the other great apes? How could you explain the similarities in structures, genetics, and metabolic pathways?
Now back to our beliefs, you can believe in god, I can have evolution:
How does your model account for the #2 Human Chromosome?
Background: Genetically speaking, this chromosome was the result of the fusion of two chimpanzee chromosomes, (complete with structures that would not be needed if it was created as a single, unified chromosome.
Thanks Gus, I hope to hear from you! Take your time if needed!