Friday, September 9, 2011

I'm back, and this is for you.

After a tumultous week, (one that doesn't need much explaining) I am back. This is for my pal, Gus Gus.

Gus left me some comments:

I really don't need to address them. They stand on their own. You scored an own goal, Gus Gus. You don't make sense, you are trying to put things together that you really don't understand- and it shows.

Here is the problem; don't take a smug position and pretend that you have knowledge that the scientific community doesn't. Don't pretend like you are the first person to think of these things. Because you look like a giant tool when somebody presents a thorough refutation to everything you have to say. People can tell you are being dishonest.

You are also being arrogant. That isn't cool- because when you take that position, people really can tell that you are not concerned with evidence. You are concerned with assertion of your own world view.

Your undelying argument is that we cannot know how old the earth is- you use this strategy to undermine the sciences of biology and geology; and by extension, physics. The supreme irony is that you communicated this by using a machine that is built on the science you claim is flawed. You do realize this, right?

I am sure you know that by saying RID is wrong, you are saying that our understanding of quantum mechanics is wrong.

Additionally, quantum mechanics, when combined with statistical mechanics, provides the foundation for solid-state and semiconductor physics. Modern quantum mechanics was developed in the mid-1920’s, and the transistor and laser followed approximately a generation later.  There would be no computer hard drives, magnetic resonance imaging, light emitting diodes, cell phones, laptop computers or iPods without quantum mechanics.
                             -Scientific American,  Semptember 2011

This isn't religion, Gus. You cannot pick and choose what science you accept and what you throw out. You cannot sit there and tell me that RID, something that is supported by vast mountains of evidence, is wrong by typing on a machine built on the understanding of quantum mechanics.

But don't take my word for it. Let's ask experts in the field.

http://ncse.com/rncse/20/3/radiometeric-dating-does-work

If you find something wrong with this, do something about it. This is how science works. We love to prove our colleagues wrong. Go publish your work. Do it now. I am waiting. I am waiting for you to present your hard work and upturn the scientific community.

What's that? You won't? Is it because every scientist on earth is part of a grand scheme to stomp on your worldview and suppress the truth? Am I being arrogant? Hell yeah I am. Because, unlike you, I am have no need to assert. Here are the facts. Here is the evidence. Here is sound support. Note: I am not talking out of my ass. I am not trying to understand things I have no business dabbling in. I have what the experts agree on.

It must be really easy to believe a conspiracy theory when reality is your enemy. Gus, I like you. I just implore you to think a little harder next time.

13 comments:

  1. Dammit Michael, you are an illuminati aren't you

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  2. You guys caught on. It has been revealed. I am also a mason too (I think.) I control the world! Muahaha!

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  4. Back @ it again I see! :D Youre a good writer too. so good, in fact, I can actually break down the things you say and reasonably argue them! & trust me you're WORLDS better than the people I argue with xD

    "I really don't need to address them. They stand on their own. You scored an own goal, Gus Gus. You don't make sense, you are trying to put things together that you really don't understand- and it shows.

    Here is the problem; don't take a smug position and pretend that you have knowledge that the scientific community doesn't. Don't pretend like you are the first person to think of these things. Because you look like a giant tool when somebody presents a thorough refutation to everything you have to say. People can tell you are being dishonest."


    Lol. Okay..Im FAR from the first person to claim that the earth isn't billions of years old. I think its just a first that someone finally questioned what YOU really know and actually got YOU out of talking about science and fact and got YOU into an argument about how IM 'smug'. Im just trying to slay this nasty beast, no dishonestly needed...honestly! lol. The 'scientific' community is plagued with lies. And eventually when these things are held to truth and scrutiny they will fall just like the Pharisees of Jesus' time or the romans or whoever deciedth to do evil.
    And im sure the people at the top are aware of the truth. The things they teach are well known for being WRONG. who cares if they wont accept my position? Japanese researchers 'obviously proved' they were the highest evolved species of human because they had the least amount of hair. And you'd be killed and your fam dishonored if you found otherwise. Not quite as extreme (for) now but When you start prodding around about how they know the things they do, similar to my example you can find some major faults in their theories. None of them scientific. Im sorry but this flat earth thing is gonna die out one day and REAL scientists are going to reveal even more amazing things about our universe that are testable and provable through mathematics, logic and reasoning. Not lies. this dragon is such a plague to real science =/ so fickle. And people fall for this by the MILLIONS because they say "It must be true" in school. ={
    Its a system made to keep people in power at the top. Money controls the pawns and go figure, there is money in the earth being flat..i mean old. my bad. And its people like you or someone who is well-paid who dont want this to be untrue. so THEY will claim things that have no fact or truth to keep their jobs. Its jst the way the world works. People are liars. but the great thing about it for you, is that you always have time to change your mind. Your lifestyle isnt based upon how old the earth is or how much we came from a rock soup (i hope not.) SO I pray you refute these lies and go search for the truth. Im hoping i see you & your research in a book one day!

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  5. Part 2:
    "You are also being arrogant. That isn't cool- because when you take that position, people really can tell that you are not concerned with evidence. You are concerned with assertion of your own world view."

    Arrogant? Sure? Call me what you want. Well anyways, my worldview is based on a book that is pretty historically, scientifically, logically, mathematically and even spiritually accurate. Its the truth, the light and the way.You can call it whatever you like. My worldview is also based on love, intelligence and wisdom and attributes that reflect an amazing Trinity who empowers me to be all that I can be. And truly, you are SUCH an intelligent person blessed with the capacity to argue back. I have much respect for you, Im sure you've heard already.But finally Id like to make a comparison. Instead of stories that are known to be made up, I gather my evidence from people who were actually present in those times. Do you doubt the scientific findings of your researchers because you did not see how they found their results? If not then why question the articles that claim to be true in the bible? I dont think the age of a fact makes it untrue, but the fact that this universe is absolute can be saved for another argument.

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  6. P3
    "Your undelying argument is that we cannot know how old the earth is- you use this strategy to undermine the sciences of biology and geology; and by extension, physics. The supreme irony is that you communicated this by using a machine that is built on the science you claim is flawed. You do realize this, right? "

    We cannot know how old the earth is based upon lies. The geologic column works on circular reasoning, see my last argument for more details. I used basic math & science (And reasoning!) to find that the lies are..well lies :/ how is that flawed? Im just not a believer. call me an evolutionary atheist.

    "I am sure you know that by saying RID is wrong, you are saying that our understanding of quantum mechanics is wrong.

    Additionally, quantum mechanics, when combined with statistical mechanics, provides the foundation for solid-state and semiconductor physics. Modern quantum mechanics was developed in the mid-1920’s, and the transistor and laser followed approximately a generation later. There would be no computer hard drives, magnetic resonance imaging, light emitting diodes, cell phones, laptop computers or iPods without quantum mechanics.
    -Scientific American, Semptember 2011"

    aaand end quote/



    Nice quote. I had to re-read that a few times to get what he was saying. But anyways. Quantum Mechanics sounds pretty awesome. Im wondering what this has to do with RID, but assuming it has everything to do with it, my response? Great, RID STILL leans on that 200 year old fairytale, which makes RID WRONG, not QM. We broke their basic equation down last argument, They can observe a few things but it takes some math to backtrack, but where to? They dont know, so they refer to a made up geologic column to get the missing facts. The math and the QM is solid, no doubt bout that. but the column is made up. You say im picking and choosing things. Truly, Im picking the science out and exposing the garbage in this. "The best way to tell a lie is to tell it with a little truth in it to make it believable. Its easier to tell a big lie than a small one" You know who said that? Hitler did. And he got people to believe God (for the ones that were christian in Nazi Germany cuz Hitler certainly wasnt by the time he was the Reich) hated Jews in Nazi Germany and that they deserved to be killed because they were the lowest humans in the evolutionary pattern ,not to bat down more on your beliefs, but im just saying...In someone's mind if there is no God, what determines right and wrong? Rape actually doesnt seem so bad, its merely survival of the fittest right? (i guess this isnt a good example since youre not a female, but think of girlfriends or a daughter you may have in the future..Lawless thinking is SO wrong.) But when it comes down to it, the one(s) with most force determine right and wrong. So if your not stronger than whoever wants your fam like that, youre wrong. Why because you didnt have the power to stop it, they are RIGHT. And when this escalates to our current world (as people hunger for power and become godless), who will be the right ones? This is why I, and people thousands of years ago, foresee a New World Order and the end age. Its all relevant! now that I think about it, evolution points to us moving to animals again..Hm. Back on topic.

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  7. "This isn't religion, Gus. You cannot pick and choose what science you accept and what you throw out. You cannot sit there and tell me that RID, something that is supported by vast mountains of evidence, is wrong by typing on a machine built on the understanding of quantum mechanics."

    When U&ME(LOL universal & macro evolution) or OE(old earth) theory comes out of your mouth, its a religion. When it comes out of the mouths of the people who make this stuff up, its lies. Im picking the fact and science out of these things and separating them from the lies. QM sounds great and all (Im sure there is so much to be learned about it), but there is no solid evidence that supports U&ME and OE theory. Its a political construct to give atheism an imaginary foothold so even intelligent people like yourself can be tricked away from the truth. RID is like 90% great evidence and math, but the flaw in it is that it leans on a faulty story for scientific fact. So honestly, Im just not buying it. Hopefully, one day, we can figure a way to fix it with fact and science instead of the geologic column. ITs not about proving that the earth is 6k years old, its about proving RID DOESNT work (like your cite inversely claims). Your website basically says "See? the creationists are wrong! We figured out that the earth is billions of years old because RID works! The half life of X sample is millions of years old..so the earth is older than millions of years old because its been here forever!!!" Im sorry HOW do you know this? That is not even an argument! Just because the half life is X years, does it mean its been here for millions of years? NOOOOOO!Even your source believes the geologic time scale to be true, and as explained before, it just ISNT science. But i wont deny hes an 'expert'.

    Listen Mike, Its not about the Ph.D or whatever
    title is in front of someones name. This stuff is a business. Even if I did publish what I know, who would care? Its not apart of the business model, so itll be casted aside no matter how much I expose. Just like the 'scientific finding' in the middle ages 'proving' that the earth was flat, the catholic church wasnt hearing it! You know why? Because people learning and using their brains wasn't apart of their business model (which wasnt AT ALL biblical), even if all observable evidence and even the bible said otherwise! (Job 26:7, Isaiah 40:21-22, Luke 17:31 And if you just dont like the bible, or dont own one, heres a "Peer review" of what is in the bible for you to copy and paste explaining them< http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c015.html>)And dont harp on Revelations 7:1 because those are cardinal directions on a map, worldwide, four corners, get it?

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  8. P5 Almost done rappin here..

    Its not that every scientist is against my worldview (and there are many, actually, that are with me). They just don't know otherwise. I like calling it "caught up in the system" just like the music/fashion industry moving people towards a God-less lifestyle. The people following it arent evil, but the ones at the top ARE. Nothing on the intelligence of the scientists, Im sure they are much more intelligent than I, but it doesn't mean they are right. Some of them just dont question authority. Just like the masons who are promised some kinda 'secret knowledge' who dont think to find out that their sources' sources say they "draw their craft and seize the seething powers of Satan" (Manly P. Hall, 33rd degree Mason). Im assuming that most masons are normal people like you and I (most lower level masons are christian I think..Im not sure though) But they just dont question where it all comes from, because the perks sound too nice to deny. Im not a mason, nor have I ever been, but Ive read the things these higher level masons say and they say in plain black and white that lower level masons and people are meant to be deceived. Its like Hitler's reign and Mein Kompf. Not too many people looked into how twisted he was until it was too late. And i see the same for people like your 'expert'. He hasnt really fully realized that the GC was made up. This is why I dont believe people like your source want to be proven wrong either (and this is where it becomes religious) because he, like so many others, has invested so much of his time on becoming an 'expert' that if he was wrong, it would be a waste, not to mention his money he receives for being an 'expert' would disappear as well.. And its harder for some people to realize such a thing. It happens. But back to the main point. The fact and evidence with 'support' you claim to have are all great. but the idea of the my last message to you was to point out that when you hold even basic math and science to the faults( Geologic column, evolution myth, numerous gaps in the fossil record) your facts and evidence (RID) need a new foundation to stand upon. Im not a disbeliever in science and reason. Im a disbeliever in myth. But just because someone made it up and says its right, doesnt make it true.

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  9. P6: wow i should title this: Encyclopedia For A blog Someone Wrote About Me

    "It must be really easy to believe a conspiracy theory when reality is your enemy. Gus, I like you. I just implore you to think a little harder next time."

    Hm, reality as my enemy...? The reality is we live in a world filled with lies and injustice. And it has always been this way, U&ME is no different from the lies that are being told to keep the business model together. But I encourage you to walk through that with the power of the Lord as I do. Your intelligence is great, but you lack the rebellious spirit to question the things you believe. I HAVE questioned my beliefs. I actually wasnt a christian for a while because of the death of my father, I decided that the stories of the bible had no relevance to what was going on in my life and I questioned the willingness of God so much i ended up questioning if he was even there. There is more to that story if youd like to hear..But anyways, I dont need to know quantum mechanical engineering to know if He exists or how old the earth or the universe is. Its pretty nice that there is evidence in the bible to support some things with science and logic. But even without the evidence, even if he never answered my prayers, even if I didnt live such a nice life, even if I didnt have the things that I do, I still have total 100% faith that He is there and He cares for me. And I dont need a conspiracy theory to tell me about this world being an unjust one. I think there is only misunderstanding about thee things people with wicked intentions do. And over time, like the old and flat earth theories, they will pass and their evils and ignorance formed fron their lies will be judged and be transformed into great things for their victims and all who choose Christ.

    And seriously, if you think there might even be the possibility there might be a God out there, I encourage you to have a relationship with Him. Know and understand the things He wants you to know and ultimately know that He cares for you and yearns for your attention. Like I stated before, Should you even have a shadow of curiosity there is a God, try praying the sinners prayer (like you mean it, not like youre praying to a cow or something -___-) and EMPIRICALLY check for results. When you pray in the spirit of Jesus Christ, your prayers will be answered (not " god gimme a car, in Jc's name, amen...."). Its up to you how effective and how powerful your prayer will be. So first pray the sinners prayer. You can read it as you say it, you give the meaning and power to the prayer.


    God be merciful to me a sinner,

    and make me to know and believe in Jesus Christ, for I see, that if his righteousness had not been,

    or I have not faith in that righteousness,
    I am utterly cast away.

    Lord, I have heard that thou art a merciful God, and hast ordained that thy Son Jesus Christ should be the Saviour of the world;

    and moreover, that thou art willing to bestow him upon such a poor sinner as I am-and I am a sinner indeed.

    Lord, take therefore this opportunity, and magnify thy grace in the salvation of my soul, through thy Son Jesus Christ. Amen.




    And if you meant it, start praying for other things with total sincerity and love. You honestly cant go wrong if you TRULY want to know God, He will reveal Himself to you like He did for me. You dont have to tell me whether you did pray this or any of the results you find. In fact you can continue to argue as an evolutionist, but I strongly encourage you to try once to make a sincere prayer to God if you ever have. I think you were a christian before..I may be wrong, but anyways, I pray you come back if you WERE. Thank you for discussing these things with me, im hoping for a response!

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  10. Finally, since you mentioned (a while back) that my bible doesn't allow predictions in order to make it scientific, SO Ill present to you some predictions from the explanations it gives about creation:

    1.The universe will reveal evidence and order to reveal Intelligent Design (ID)

    2.There will be limits to organisms that undergo variation. Dogs will always produce dogs. but a dog may produce a collie or a great dane.

    3.In those variations, there will be many SYMBIOTIC relationships between organisms.

    All of these predictions are directly observable today. Further i predict that

    4. There will be a purpose to life. We were designed by- a creator for a purpose

    5. There will be a sense of justice, love and an ability to produce kindness. These things are borrowed in the evolution theory's explanation for how we survive today.

    6. There will be a way to find the will of the creator. Maybe even a book telling us how He did it and why.

    7. I predict there will be an afterlife where we must face the creator and be held accountable for the things we do on this earth.

    But anyways lets continue.

    8. There will be legends of a "golden age" where people lived for a long time!

    9. There will be evidence for people living for a great number of years. showing signs of things like bigger jaws and larger eyebrow ridges (your eyebrows never stop growing fyi)

    10. There will be biological problems in us like wisdom teeth and allergies as time progresses, because we are an inferior copy to what man once was.

    11. There will be a universal longing (especially within is or the "wouldnt it be great if") for things to restore to the Garden of Eden.


    So. There are some of my predictions. have @ em.

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  11. Bit late, but I gotta respond to (or "have @") a couple of these points: 

    2.There will be limits to organisms that undergo variation. Dogs will always produce dogs. but a dog may produce a collie or a great dane.

    Without a very rigorous, independent definition of "dog", this is empty tautology. How do we define chihuahuas as dogs apart from their relatedness to other dogs?

    6. There will be a way to find the will of the creator. Maybe even a book telling us how He did it and why.

    Still waiting for both! Hint: Genesis doesn't remotely tell how anything was created; it's just mechanism-free magic. As for God's will, nowhere does the Bible state it clearly. God has behaviors, but it takes humans to come up with shorthand paraohrasals like "God's will is that we love one another."

    8. There will be legends of a "golden age" where people lived for a long time!

    Because the only source you have for asserting this is one of those legends, this is quite circular. Plus, there's a decent anecdotal argument that most people have a "nostalgia filter" such that whoever we are, our own childhood was a golden age (The politicians were more honest! The video games were better! There weren't any video games! There weren't any factories! etc.). It's not a stretch to apply this tendancy in an extreme form and imagine a perfect past for all humanity.

    9. There will be evidence for people living for a great number of years. showing signs of things like bigger jaws and larger eyebrow ridges (your eyebrows never stop growing fyi)

    Okay, this is the one that I most wanted to respond to. Not only is it bogus that "Your eyebrows never stop growing" (they may get a bit harier on some old people, but they get inner on others, and for the most part they simply stay the same length) but eyebrow ridges are not eyebrows!

    10. There will be biological problems in us like wisdom teeth and allergies as time progresses, because we are an inferior copy to what man once was.

    The funny thing about these is that not only does evolution explain them much better than some vague notion of being an "inferior copy", but in the case of wisdom, the explanation partially has to do with the fact of our increasing lifespan. Wisdom teeth are less of a problem if you're not going to live as long — and if, in the meantime, your other teeth are likely to rot away, something today's "inferior" humans don't have to worry about as much if they're lucky enough to live with toothpaste, floss, and floridated water.

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